that five men that have been accused of
raping and killing the twenty three-year-old woman in india are
standing trial two day and um… of course the entire country is getting
involved in this case you’re seeing protest both men and women are taking to
the streets asking for stricter uh… you don’t want to get some repairs
and people that arrives in the last women uh… but at the same time we also have
ah… so called spiritual leaders they’re blaming the victim which as i
mentioned earlier died as a result of the crime against
her and now it’s all a protest is is saying
that uh… the defendant shouldn’t be a level
of pt isis incredibly serious issue our love the
people pay attention to the united a fix it of the people are mad and they’re in the
streets that’s great that castration in the death sentence in
the no defense lawyers art terrible ideas because remember do you think you got
the right as in this case but if you are you for no defense lawyers you’re gonna castrate the wrong dot how
do you know you got the right pat we wind up in the papers we want to bring
the justice wanna make sure it’s that yes acting
debut that justice is people are asking for a few denied that
defense attorneys then that’s gonna set a terrible precedent here continue don’t
want that uh… anyway i just want to let you guys
know what this as so called spiritual guru had to say his name is ass around baku and he says the
following she should take in god’s name and could have held the hand of one of
the men and said i consider you as my brother insurance sent to the other two
brother iam helpless you are my brother my religious front yet because when you’re being raped
taking the hand of your replace is usually eighty credibly effective strategy and pleading with them bob surprise that that wouldn’t work and you think about this gusting this
guys that he thinks all located just past the
politely not to review they probably wouldn’t have a p remember maybe your and threw her out of the bus
and she died paid reaper so viciously i’m not sure it appealing to the
religious values what i’ve done the trick yak she had internal injuries that
were so severe that she literally died uh… and her she had a male companion
with her who was beaten with a metal pipe so uh… yep pleading with them probably
wouldn’t work on him by the way he doesn’t say hey
this shipment of it base on having values he says purple alts for not making a religious argument in
the middle of a red wrecked he continues to say in the state is
uh… not committed from one side the excuse for geron if the girl had
chance against sadat dot s saraswati and the guru dick schapp uh…
then she once have entered the plus okay well that’s ok except if you’re a
lunatic another that is true uh… an inch and all the hymns he one inning
honest operating went like she when i got on the part of your shoes chanting
the right hands yeah i guess so that she would have been
an insane asylum issue and i got anywhere alone like i i don’t believe in
hinduism anymore than i believe in islam or christianity or judaism or any of
these other who do and on forced layoff of people believe men if you want to
certain culture not only to see that shit how is it that you happen to be born
into the one right religion everybody else is more nimble run religious
leaders for the right carden it turns out the issued a pretty good
picture and if he does not come mum whatever the hell is so if you’re in
the new and you are offended by then i know hindus who would be offended by
that that’s a sad day for you possession a trip that’s just the reality of it and a
nativist operated as a gonna stop cancer is in a stop a damn thing and being decent and moral satya fellow man that’s great
mathematician it if you do that because in religion
fantastic if you do it despite religion that’s good to or date and oftentimes
religion as you do in my office which have been isn’t gonna get the job done
You trust the government to kill the right people?
Oh, boy..now look who's getting emotional. I thought you were so cool and collected. I said prisoners were given free education, did not meant the ones on death row. Sorry to burst your tiny bubbles, but every death row inmates does have visitation rights. I know, I've been there, Mr. Know It All. If you don't believe me why don't you call Florida State Prison and ask them. Go ahead, I dare you.
Sorry, did you read my previous comment? You've never visited anyone on death row. The only man executed in 2005 in Florida was Glen James Ocha. He is not the man you described, because he was not only not married, but only killed one person Carol Skjerva. Come on say it with me O-W-N-E-D!
I never mentioned anything about starving prisoners to death, so being so emotional and use some logic. Oops, made a mistake. That was 2006, Angel Diaz. He was executed by lethal injection. I personally knew the guy and his family. You're getting your panties in a wad over nothing. You're too emotional.
Nope, and I never said that.
Haha, your attempts to retroactively make your lie plausible is pathetic. You honestly thought I would buy that? Nice job googling a guy. Not only is it pathetic you going back and trying to change your story, its not even right. Ángel Nieves Díaz also wasn't married and killed only one man, Joseph Nagy. Nice job dumbass.
Yes, I did. I made a mistake with the year of his execution, which was 2006. We used to visit him back in the 90s in a large room with lots of tables and chairs. The guards would call out prison count, and all inmates had to stay where they were till the count was done. I would take his wife and 2 kids to visit the guy, and I had to be in that list of visitors as well. Why don't you call Florida State Prison and ask if death row inmates are allowed visitors.
Uh, dumbass, I just said he was unmarried, had no kids, and killed only one man. Also, Florida Administrative Code, Chapter 33, Section 601.711-737, visitation is not a right of inmates. God you suck at this.
Hahahaha…..you don't anything do you? Why don't you call Florida State Prison, instead of reading it in Wilipedia, and ask if this guy was married. Wilkipedia doesn't tell you half the things this guy did. He killed a cop in Puerto Rico and others as well. They used to call him Papo Le Muerte, because he killed to many people. Who told me this? His wife. Matter of fact, she stopped visiting him several years before his death, because wanted nothing to do with her.
Sorry to burst your tiny bubble again, but he WAS married with children. Matter of fact, he got married in prison. Go ahead, why don't you get that information from Florida State Prison. The best thing to do is call Florida State Prison and get the information yourself. Do it, and you'll see I'm telling the truth. I dare you.
You don't have to believe me. All you have to do is get the info from the prison.
Okay this is just getting sad now. He shot a guy during a robbery, he wasn't some big shot mob boss type. Also his girlfriend ratted him out. The reason you chose him was because his name pops up on google, because Jeb Bush put a temporary suspension on executions because his was done improperly. You lied, you got caught, get over it. Good bye.
I did you lying shit sack. No just stop this is getting sad.
I never said he was a big shot mob. The guy wasn't married when he had a girlfriend. He got married in prison. Don't believe me? Call Florida State Prison and get information from them. You won't do it because once you find out the truth, you'll feel like an idiot. Get the information from the real source, the prison. It's on their record.
And you're still getting all emotional over nothing…tsk, tsk, tsk.
No, you feel like an idiot because you didn't research an obvious lie enough. Even if that's true, you expect me to believe you didn't retroactively correct yourself to make your story more believable. Then even if that's true, I would still not believe you went with his made up wife to visit him in prison.
Are you still butthurt over getting busted on you lie?
Like I said, call Florida State Prison and find out for yourself.
The spiritual leaders evidence that he is correct is that he prays and he has
He has not been raped to death
You're an idiot.
Florida State Prison rule for death row visitation: All inmate visitors must be approved before visitation is allowed. Questions regarding an inmate's visiting day(s), visiting hours, and special visits should be directed to the Classification Officer responsible for the inmate at the inmate's assigned facility.
Still going through that emotional rollercoaster, huh?
I'm not being emotional, you are objectively a moron.
Oh, oh – another emotional wave coming in. Enough already! I'm getting off this merry-go-round. See ya!
Why do murders happen? Is it because people do not know that murdering someone is unacceptable? No. So for them to say "tell your sons to behave properly" is completely moronic because im sure they already know that it would be wrong to rape and murder a woman or even a man. Yet they do it regardless. Telling women that they should be aware of their surroundings should not be looked down upon. I feel like they are unjustly looking down upon good advice.
Way to pathetically project your embarrassment into an imaginary emotional outburst. Though what can you expect from a sociopathic, lying, murder apologist.
Yes but nobody "commits" or is tempted to commit an earth quake. No human is tempted to give aids to small children or to cause a kid to die from cancer. These evils that exist have nothing what so ever to do with human free will. So if god is good why to the evils of the natural world exits? Why does he allow such wanton suffering and pain?
Whatever you say. As far as the chopping of hands goes… that's only once the robber is clearly identified.
Nah you can tell Him that yourself in the afterlife. But nice try though, mortal.
Uh nope… Islam when properly followed resulted in prosperity… ever heard of the Golden Age Of Islam? There's tons of proof but besides that it's also spiritual– something unfortunately you'll never understand. Well who knows never say never.
Oh my God you sound like a whining 3 year old … don't even know how God puts up with the likes of you… if I were God you'd be dead by now.
if you didn't have free will you wouldn't be able to know that you're suffering. Can't have both free will and a perfect world. He gave us free will and the rest us upto us.. whether we follow His advice and live a fulfilling life here and the afterlife or just fool around and whinefor this world only.
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No. I know the religion I picked is the one true religion … the only one worth following… I don't care for other "Gods" since I don't believe in them. Spiritually I've felt nothing quite like this before and that alone is enough for me but the proofs don't hurt either… they just help cement that belief. In any case that's not your issue.
No, my issue is the lack of proof. That's… really my only issue, in the end.
Because god isn't real? Why would god want us to know we are suffering? Its sounding more and more like he is a sadist. So he gave us free will, knowing we would suffer, yet also still expects us to obey him unquestioningly, or he will torture us forever? Yep, your phoney god is a sadistic pig.
What? If you're moral only because of your religion there's something wrong with you.
i understand spirituality and its differences from religion. what you are trying to do is dismiss any one with different ideas. i know alot about the muslims history and about islam. Islam was founded by Muhammad around 622 CE. Islamic teaching is that the angel Gabriel (or Jibreel) read the first revelation to of the Islamic faith to Muhammad in Mecca during the ninth month on the Muslim calendar (or the month of Ramadan) and continued to come to Muhammad many times over a period of 23 years.
During this period the Arab world was a cauldron of cultures which collected, synthesized and significantly advanced the knowledge gained from the ancient Roman, Chinese, Indian, Persian, Egyptian, Greek, and Byzantine civilizations. the islam of today has dont nothing to compare with that age sadly. if islam was still this way the world might be a more peacefull place but sharia reared its ugly head instead.
and old islams greatness wasnt because of the religions but despite it.
Congrats you learned to Google search .
Well for one how do you explain Bedouins from the 7th century to come up with such a complex masterpiece as the Qur'an?
would you prefer i quote from my quran?
The same way I would explain anything else man made: human ingenuity. But there's also this idea that your inability to think of a way does not prove that a god did it, just that you can't think of a way. And also I'm having to just go with your assertion that the Qur'an IS a masterpiece to begin with, which I'm not just going to intuitively assume, having never read it. Not exactly the most compelling of arguments.
Did I say that's the only indication of a God? Don't misconstrue what I said. As far as the human ingenuity goes…I dare you to write a passage as powerful ..As meaningful as any verse from the Qur'an.
I never said only. It was, however, the only one you presented. And once again, I've never read the Qur'an, I have no metric for the quality of its writing, but as a writer myself… I probably could, given enough time and effort. Besides, even if I couldn't, it wouldn't prove the divine authorship of the Qur'an, just my own limitations as a writer. This one isn't an argument at all.
You don't know what my name means. And I'm no kid. I'm 46.
And I'll DARE to say whatever the fuck I want…. ever heard of freedom of speech? But if you think you can spread your hateful, religious vitriolic insults on a public website without suffering the consequences then you are an idiot.
Oh, and tell your Mom thanks for helping me lose my virginity… son!
LOL!!
You know what I think? They should castrate or imprison all these religious gurus. And this coming from a Hindu. Effing shameless these nutcases.
there is no science to back up your claims and you know it which is why you are telling him to go and find it himself and cursing at him.
there is science it's just that I'm too lazy to link you to the research.
right, right thats it. you spend days fighting people and making claims but your too lazy to back anything up? then how is it you expect any one to take anything you have to say seriously?
Don't. Like I said before there is no tangible and conclusive proof the ones that I found all hint that there is a God(some more so than hint–they're fairly obvious ) but nothing that specifically says anything conclusive . It only alludes one to believe .Then there's faith. if you don't buy it then that's fine ..I'm content with my belief and that's all that matters to me anyways.
then thats fine but dont go round making claims you cant back up in regards to science, you have claimed both there is and there si not evidence for what you say, if you have found some personal experience then great but thats is yours alone. evidence would be for everyone.
"Clergy blames raped and brutalized woman for death" should be the correct title for this video… The guy is stupid despite the fact that he is largely misquoted here in a language which he doesn't speak in.. Even stupider are Indians who have made this into a mass closure movement for people who get lied-to by their media because they have no individual thought and they never confirm or remember shit… the fact is that the poor have no life & dignity while India is JUST FUCKING CHILLING MAN!
Blimey mate you're making no sense, their is such a thing as 'too stoned' you know?
Your 'proofs' are all in your head you loon, there is NO corroborating evidence.
Piss off back to the fucking Dark Ages will you?
Oh I'm sorry that there is no foolproof evidence for you spoon fed goons. Idiots.. think about it.. had it been that fkn obvious.. then how in earth would it even be a test anymore.
your missing the point. people are more educated now than in previous times and that is helping cause the decline in faith. we see nothing to support what you claim therefore the idea of the test is irrelevant since that would imply there is a god and since they dont believe that. why god requires a test when he made everything in existence according to his will and is infinte. so nothing can ever happen he didnt design, therefore there is no free will, so how can there be a test. its laughable
There is free wi ll do some more research on religion theory before jumping to asshat conclusions like those.
People might be more educated nowadays and thus more skeptical but they still have no conclusive proof from either side and so you make the mistake of not taking into account the possibility of a deity.
the burden of proof is on those who make the claims.
there is no free will or god is not all powerfull.
thats following logic and reason to a conclusion. jumping to a conclusion is a leap of faith and that is where you have thrown your hat. you believe what feels good and what you want. end of story.
Well I won't deny that spirituality played a large part in my decision…now you can call it whatever you want. However, I did several years ago do a fair bit of my own research and came to the conclusion that what I believe is indeed the truth. It all hints at the existence of a deity…more so than hint really . In any case I'm done with this..you do what you want to do and I'll go with my way.. guess we'll see who was right after death.
its not about being right for me, i thought you had something to say, as in a personal experience, i was interested in what. what was your research? its just a question, where can i begin to research what you did? what theology were you using? what authors? several years of research lead you to more than a hint of a deity, thats interesting to me but you wont say what it was. that confuses me. i never tried to tell you what to believe im trying to find out why you believe it.
Yes, India also has fucking assholes just like US. And people are fucking idiots for following him.
Messed up religion.
Cenk you are an agnosticathiest fundamentalist, but a strand of fundamentalism nonetheless. Lets respect everyone's religious beliefs and nonbeliefs and not mock them.
ask what you dont undnerstan, all my Indian friends get what I'm saying
No…put him in prison, and let's see how he prays when they drag him into the shower.
TYT is just always so on point….
Go look up entropy theory.. there go read up onthat shit. bitch.
So you honestly believe that this world and all its complex components and inhabitants are the result of pure coincidence?
The existence of God is in itself something that defies logic; however, there is logic in the causality argument.
I'd rather believe in that than the idea that all of life was just a big freakin coincidence
Criticizing is completely fine. But discarding all religions as being voodoo and like Cenk has said before, the world would be a better place without any religion, it makes him a fundamentalist- because he does not hold toleration for other's beliefs.
Name one thing religion has done to better humanity? All I see is people killing in the name of Allah, Jesus, Zeus, and whatever garbage it is they use to kill other people who think differently. haha but its okay I am sure GOD will judge me pfft.
This isn't about religion's contribution to society. This is about a double standard that most liberals have and especially everyone on TYT. TYT constantly talks about how intolerant and fundamentalist some religious groups are because they think only their views should be allowed and none other matter because they are completely wrong. Yet Cenk holds the same fundamentalist view of his agnostic/athiest faith with respect to people with faith.
Mhm, If he was as fundamentalist as you suggest then tell me when has he killed in the name of agnostitsm. This is america he is allowed to think whatever he wants. As for religion, I view it as just another way for people to justify their own actions. Despite that i believe freedom of religion is a basic principle to any well off society. I doubt if cenk had the chance he would try to take that from them. As for atheism it kind of requires a lack of fate. Me personally, I simply do not care 😉
i do not think it is wise/fair to make blanket statements about everyone on tyt. Unless you have conversed with them. But despite that little nit pick~ I do not know I see no reason as to why you should care about this. It isn't like it matters? People are going to kill for Allah, Jesus, communism, capitalism, because someone looked at them funny, or for fun. Religion or no, people are the monsters and the gods they believe in give them the confidence to say they arn't. Kwah hah hah
this is just the tip of the iceberg right wing hindus in india have been behind the genocide of sikhs,muslims and christians
you cant call all religion as voodoo…
Yes we can
I totally agree with you
HUMA HUMA HUM
the man is so right… all the respect in the world
all religion voodoo with so many o's dat u cant count meanwhile terrible subtitles ..
INDIAN PARENTS
ASK YOUR DAUGHTERS NOT TO OFFER THEIR PUSSIES TO MEN TO KILL INNOCENT SONS OF INDIA.
ASK YOUR DAUGHTERS NOT TO KILL A CHILD BECAUSE IT IS A BABY BOY.
ASK YOU DAUGHTERS TO LEARN THE IMPORTANCE OF BEING WOMEN AND BEING BETTER HUMAN BEINGS.
GO FIND OUT THE NAME OF THE INDIAN MARATHI WOMEN WHO OFFERED HER PUSSY TO CARLTON MONTANO IN BRITAIN TO GET AN INNOCENT INDIAN BOY KILLED, HE WAS SOMEONES CHILD YOU BASTARD NATION CALLED INDIAN, HE WAS INNOCENT BASTARDS CALLED INDIANS.
WHERE IS THAT COWARD CALLED CARLTON MONTANO?
WHERE IS THAT COWARD CALLED BINI REDDA?
WHERE ARE THE PROSTITUTES WHO GAVE BIRTH TO CARLTON MONTANO & BINI REDDA.
HOW LONG IS THE WORLD GOING TO BREED THIS BASTARDS CALLED INDIANS, THESE RUTHLESS MURDERERS AND CRIMINALS.
INDIAN WOMEN DR VIJAYA MOHAN THAT MURDERER OF MALE FETUS LIVED IN BRIITAIN FOR 25 YEARS, COURTESY BRITISH GOVERNMNET, SHAME ON YOU.
BASTARD INDIANS YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT HUMAN VALUES. SHAME ON YOUR BIRTHS, YOU WOMEN ARE HEINOUS.
HEAR IT, HEAR IT, IT IS YOUR OWN ACTIONS, IT IS THE RESULT OF YOUR OWN ACTIONS YOU MURDEROUS HUMAN RACE. HEAR IT, DO NOTHING JUST HEAR IT ATLEAST HEAR IT.
dont fool yourself, it is not good to fool yourself.
never kill innocents and refuse to take responsibility for it. Right now you are doing it.
WOW you right in all CAPS which obviously means you are correct!
pakistani hoga tera baap, typical opportunist. people like you only are why pakistan was created and still exists. What is the difference between pakistan and india? what great examples have both countries set for human values, nothing except show offs and bookish history. All their lives pakistanis and indians have focussed on each other who is better but world has changed so much both countries still live with rudimentary beliefs
STFU
I just wanted to clarify something, people in India weren't arguing for these rapists to not have defense lawyers, the association of lawyers in that Court decided to boycott these rapists. Of course they will still have some Court appointed lawyers. Any case, however heinous can't go ahead without a party not being allowed legal counsel. We still have rule of law you know.
That bastard (Asaram Bapu) himself is accused of rape of a minor and has been arrested on rape charge of a minor
I had like 50 facepalms through this episode.. this asaram fuckhead sucks..
Most Indians condemned Asaram and media blasted him for weeks. Asaram is now in jail for rape and murder in his religious institution. So, the law does catch up.
He is in jail for the past 15 months….
I am a hindu…..
Who said to u that all hindus believe and chant hymns??? Stop stereotyping the whole hindu community for the speech given by a popular dickhead spiritual guru…..
I am not even a radical Hindu but this is offensive to make fun of hymns like that. You can say a Guru should not use that, I agree. But calling religion shit is also offensive. You can be atheist but you cannot make fun of theists. And theists also should not make fun of atheists.
lndia is fukking place for women
– via YTPak(.com)
that so called spiritual guru himself is being accused of molesting young girls. Google him – "Asaram Bapu"
Clergy blaming the victim. It's universal.