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they pass out to their soldiers and part of the questionnaires ask them about
their spirituality cell of right now the wisconsin based freedom
from religion foundation is really upset about it because of the type of questions asking
and that the type of uh… recommendations this old soldiers get
based on their answers so let me give you an example of some of the
questions are asking the questionnaire uh… i’m a spiritual person you answer yes or no
or i’d believe there is a purpose for my life you answer yes or no and based on those uh…
answers you’ll get a recommendation now if you are not considered a spiritual percent
in the answer that you get back is that your spiritual fitness is america area possible
difficulty and you should improve your spiritual fitness to be uh… and considered to be an
important goal meant that would make me so an angry like on here collarbone smile expert indeed remind life to protect are so so-called
freed you’re doing your religious test while i’m doing that my xp charging my spiritual fitness on the
judge your spiritual fitness let’s get your bible quota glad to see what happens freight
yeah like you don’t know anything they could have been studied any of this estate it much
more than them i’d don’t believe what do you know by the promise in the military can’t
do that because you have to be incredibly deferential cure commanding officer
so if your commanding officer gives use test this route and like i feel like religion is such a personal
thing and i don’t think it’s anyone’s business in the military but the argument is that the army needs to
know because bait strongly believe that if you are religious person you’re more likely
to not art less likely to commit suicide while you’re in nazareth brown onset house
it’s like a way uh… then basically measuring your mental health which is rediculous right
and uh… there’s a million excuses with an article about on all you don’t understand
we’re just trying to help them out you know those forgiveness and dozens of problem
lost souls let me know what that the religious test words is worried about their health because
obviously if you don’t believe in you know passes spiritual fitness test you know you’re in a lot of trouble and we
need to help you no i don’t know held off on the united states
of america and they also claim of course that the results are completely confidential no
one is going to know about your commanding officers dot could you know about it so don’t
work then why are you doing guys act but that does not see exactly tank people don’t know this about me but i
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"the only way mankind can survive is that religion has to die"…..Bill Maher…love that guy..so true,so true..thankgod it's happening…lol…"there is no god,so stop worrying and enjoy life"….not "probably"…lol
Ana looks so good in this clip. 9.8/10
And religion is like believing in fairies.
@TruthIsSin bwahahahaahahaha …. good point …. eerie
@KeyboardWarrior1996 Where is the proof God doesnt exist? For all you know? What do you know? Who is judging? If you dont believe in God you go to Hell, thats not judging thats a fact.
@ooMONKEYoo Wake up, We don't live in a perfect world. We live in a world run by humanbeings. Capable of doing good or evil. So next time you question god, maybe you should question your self, or the persons doing destructious acts. Don't take it so hard this world is only the begining.
@smokescreen767 Who made the human-beings? God is an ass hole that allows people who represent his 'religion' to molest children – use children as slaves – and oppress women and minorities. THANKS GOD!! 😀 wtf will this prick think is heaven?
WWJB What Would Jesus Bomb…..!
@Mrparrot73 wtf are you talking about? That moron is in jail.
@bambam8541 Where is the proof that God DOES exist? In a book written by some guys thousands of years ago? And this fact that you'll go to Hell for not believing in God is in that book? You know what's also in a book? That Harry Potter is a wizard. It's a FACT, it's in a book.
@danmarg83 The definition of Ignorance is in a book too. If you use that logic then watch out for the boogey man tonight.
@bambam8541 Obviously you don't understand my logic because I was stating you can't believe everything you read. So you stating that the definition of a word is in a book is not relevant to the point I was making.
So if you use your example with what I said, then you're saying the definition of ignorance might not be true.
And you still didn't answer the question. What's the proof that he does exist?
The thing about the bible that most people don't seem to get is the circular reasoning. The proof that the bible is the word of god is that it says it is. I'm apparently a moron because I need something other than the bible to prove the bible valid. Circular reasoning is not reasonable.
Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the Army is saying that people who don't believe in an invisible man in the sky are mentally unstable?
@dodgermutt I think that an A with a circle around it is the most agreed upon symbol. It looks like of like the @ symbol.
By the way, the nuclear cloud is a symbol for a political party in Iran that IS religious. So even if atheists wanted it, they've been beaten to the punch.
It's also amusing to me that the Army is saying that people who don't believe in an afterlife are more likely to commit suicide. Don't these people ever look at statistics before they open their mouths.
Bubba that is complete garbage. Atheists have shown throughout history a willingness to fight for freedom and liberty. To say otherwise only illustrates ignorance. That being the case which sacrifice is greater? Someone that is willing to fight and go to heaven or someone willing to fight with the only life they have.
Right. Only the religious serve in the military. What about Pat Tillman? He was a known atheist. Or maybe you haven't heard of him. Ernest Hemingway, famous poet, WW1 veteran, and also an atheist. The list goes on, shall I continue?
@007HubbaBubba All light is part of the electromagnetic spectrum, all you ever see is electromagnetic waveforms. Though it is only a small part of the total field we see.
@007HubbaBubba Creationism is a belief while evolution is science. People believe in evolution like they believe in gravity. The belief in a God or Gods is neither confirmed or denied by science. Science systematic knowledge of the physical world gained through observation and experimentation and it does not deal with anything super natural.
@007HubbaBubba
i know us soldiers and marines, and airmen who are athiest or agnostic.
@007HubbaBubba
i know 1 who was…
And anyway, its only logical for a person who is in the position of life and death to go for anything, even the irational in order to calm their mind in the hope of suvival, its called suvival instincts.
@007HubbaBubba
So fucking what is einstein believed in god, that is a moot point, i can list off dozens if not hundreds of prominant figures of history whom dont believe in god, the % of people believing something does not make it correct or not, the fact it is correct or not does.
@wrt7 I think people should know about religion, just like they should know about other cultures and societies. Its only increases their knowledge of the human condition. i'm not saying they should practice, just know about it. But to make a claim that atheist are not the one's "blowing shit up" is ignorant. I served with the Marines in many countries; Iraq, Afghanistan, the Horn of Africa. And all sorts of with and without interest in religion were "blowing shit up".
@wrt7 Well, lets see. People in prison has already been explained by atheists to have nothing to do with religion, but more of the environment required for someone to become atheist. And wars, lets see, china is an atheist nation, did they ever go to war? what about the mongols (largest countries in history). Need more modern? Russia? There are plenty of atheist countries that terrorize and attack countries, we only hear about what we are up against now.
@triel77 I hope you realize that with the cycles of government, fighting for freedom and liberty rarely produces such things, but most often another corrupt government. We fight for freedom and liberty in iraq, and look how screwed over it is there. You cannot fight someone else's battle.
But for which is the greater sacrifice, i think both, as both are willing to sacrifice for someone else. The sacrifice is life, not their attitude towards afterlife.
@007HubbaBubba That's, totally ridiculous. I've seen US marines and soldiers that don't believe in god and I'm an Eagle Scout of the Boy Scouts of America and I don't believe in god.
@Kaimosae You got that right….you'll be damned…..LOL
@triel77 T that is also garbage. What else do atheist have to fight for? You could also argue that religion is a form of freedom and liberty.
@blazingeagle308 Funny cuz boy scouts is a religious organziation or at least it was when it first started but thinks to the libs it has been destroyed. Whats next openly gay boy scouts? or are we passed that and its transgendered scouts (boy scouts that dress up as brownies)?
@danmarg83 Everything around you is proof he exist. Let me ask, How could you deny there is no creator?
@tommysch Where is the proof your great, great, great grandfather existed? What do you know? What dont you know? Are you worried about being judged? If you believe in nothing then when you die your nothing? I guess your nothing in life if your nothing in death. What a waste. Stupid arguments make stupid sense, gotto go my unicorn just got out of the barn.
@llamahamfat How can I be a hypocrite if I laid down one statement and then asked a question about that statement?
@KeyboardWarrior1996
The bible is the word of god, I know this because it says so in the bible. Bam, a kick of logic to your teeth bitch!!
"I don't believe"
Cenk, you're an atheist. Just admit it already.
@llamahamfat I found an error in it, so I made a new comment. Nothing wrong with that, now is there?
If you don't know what you're arguing about, then don't argue. Good day to you, sir.
@bluefootedpig I do not fully understand your 1st part about prison. But Russia and China are not atheist countries.
@2PaperTigers Well Sir. I thank you for serving in the Marines.
I am sure that people who do not care about religion are "blowing shit up".
But it seems more often radical religious people are the ones "blowing shit up".
Quoting is fun.. 🙂
But really.. All the bs aside.. Thank you for serving. You know more about this than I do.
I have never been to any of those countries and was not a Marine.
I could not join the military because of injuries from a bad car accident when I was 18..
@007HubbaBubba Where did you hear that cliche from? I'm a "weekend warrior" and I'm a deeply rooted atheist. One of my 'youtube friends' is a retired navyman and is also atheist. Seems your little fantasy doesn't quite match reality, does it? Perhaps you'll want to start creating absurd rationalizations now?
Fake controversy. Spirituality is not religion.
@007HubbaBubba You can see each of those things with the proper instrument. You can see electricity in lightning, you can hear soundwaves, and you can observe electromagnetic waveforms.
So let me amend my statement.
Am I the only only on that finds it ironic that the Army is saying that people who don't believe in an invisible, intangible, mute, impossibly distant, remarkably uncaring, unobservable, and non interacting spirit are mentally unstable?
The story of Darwin's recanting is not true. Shortly after Darwin's death, Lady Hope told a gathering that she had visited Darwin on his deathbed and that he had expressed regret over evolution and had accepted Christ. However, Darwin's daughter Henrietta, who was with him during his last days, said Lady Hope never visited during any of Darwin's illnesses, that Darwin probably never saw her at any time, and that he never recanted any of his scientific views (Clark 1984, 199; Yates 1994).
Hell no bitches
@Loathomar
Indeed the religious seem to think they are doing us a favor by telling people we recant on our death beds.
Nothing suites a religious person better then a lie.
@manxdude1
I respect the person but generally the religion is simply bull.
@wrt7 1st part: that in a society that promotes one standard, to go against it people need to be critical thinkers, and critical thinkers in general commit less crime. If you had an Islam nation, and someone in this nation born and raised, changed to lets say Buddhist, then odds are they won't commit crimes.
China during all the big wars, when they killed hundreds of thousands, they were atheist. For awhile, it was illegal to believe in a God.
@bambam8541 Do you mean damned by Zeus for not believing?
@007HubbaBubba "The evidence is all around you" that's what the Koran says too. Are you going to start bowing to Mecca 5 times a day now?
@gotitans999 Fairies are real though. Ive seen them, they have their own clubs ,bars ,and music.(Mostly made by Beiber)
@XSC3
Are you saying my assessment is somehow wrong?
Religion generally claims to be the truth and that their leader is the truth yet they lie constantly in the name of preserving their ideology.
If that is judgmental then so be it. Some times you just have to say it like it is and deal with the consequence.
@FunnyOrgasm He doesn't have to.
@BorgKing001 Oh? What unit were you in? I'm a former US Army Paratrooper with the 82nd…atheist the whole time.
Tell me how you are tougher than me? Hmm?
@djangst I"m a Marine, nothing EVER former about us
@hitch4645
He's "admitted" it plenty of times.
@XSC3 Religion is a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of life and the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a supernatural agency, or human beings’ relation to that which they regard as holy, sacred, spiritual, or divine. Therefore, I don't really think it can be used when discussing ethics or general worldview, but this is just semantics. Thanks for the comment though.
@FunnyOrgasm I'm not trying to be uppity- I'm just saying this is "Atheist territory", so having a factual disptute likely won't work…he doesn't have to have one, because he's the majority, sadly.
" I'm in the church of I don't know " – (Bill Maher)… Theists and Atheists both work in absolutes. I think there is something there, I don't know what it is in the universe, I don't know why I think there is some kind of 'source', but I do. I can provide NO evidence of a 'Higher Being', but because I'm not working in absolutes I don't need to provide anything. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence..
Your "spiritual fitness" is an area of possible difficulty… like you are not going to accept brainwashing as easy or so readily !
Judge my "spiritual fitness" my eye !
@clipsryan It is still clear you don't understand the definition of spirituality… I'd recommend u wiki it.
Also, do your research before making unfounded assertions… google Catholic and Buddhist Spirituality.
by education, i did not intend to imply formal academia. My apologies for your misunderstanding there. I should have invoked spiritual guidance, or perhaps actual practice into a spirituality. As a final thought, psychologists have always supported spirituality
@AxisXIViral No he hasn't. He calls himself an agnostic.
@hitch4645
I've heard him call himself both.
@AxisXIViral Maybe you have. All I know is that I've been watching the show damn near every day for almost 3 years and every single time he discusses religion he emphasizes that he's an agnostic, rather than an atheist
@hitch4645
Yeah, I know he does that alot. However, I have heard him also mention that it's kind of a fine line, and while he considers himself an agnostic on the whole, he does believe that God doesn't exist. And that is the belief of an Atheist. So, technically it would be more correct to say he is both.
@AxisXIViral Well technically every person on the planet is an agnostic so the label is irrelevant.
@hitch4645
…I'm not the one providing the label, Cenk is. If you want to have an philosophical argument about it you're talkin to the wrong guy. I don't really care, just stating facts.
@clipsryan
You arent giving me any credit for actually understanding you. I keep saying that you don't know what spirituality actually is. you have reduced it to "immaterial reality" While that is not correct, we can work with that. Spirituality investigates REAL things like morals, beliefs, thoughts, desires. Through opening these channels people can live better, more fulfilling lives. Even atheists can explore spirituality, it is fundamentally separate from religion, but can invoke it.
@bambam8541 I never knew it was a religious organziation. In my troop god or religion was almost never mentioned except for the Boy Scouts Oath. I never knew atheists weren't allowed to joined until I discovered it on the internet a few days before my Eagle Court of Honor.
@kjaoend you can be an atheist or a theist. you can't be none of the above. every person on the planet is agnostic, so the word becomes meaningless. he either believes in a god or he doesn't
@clipsryan well despite your argumentative tone, it appears you have backed off from your initial (an incorrect) rebuttal of the fact that spirituality and religion are not interchangeable words and I hope you can accept the idea that spirituality exists independently.
I understand that you, as many people are, are probably skeptical of engaging in spirituality but at least you see that it need not invoke religion to exist. It does invoke immaterial realities (morals, thoughts, feelings).
@clipsryan
I never mentioned the movement of spirits, though it may make for a nice contemplation. A valid spirituality can simply be reflecting on ones beliefs and personal values, an activity that would be good for anyone. You are the one that keeps pushing the grandiose idea that ghosts or black cats are involved in this shit. Most spiritual people dont go near that stuff (although the loonies love it). I keep saying spirituality need not involve religion, why can't u just accept that.
2 steps off crusader status.
USA = Epic lOlz
guess there are foxhole atheists. i guess the army would believe that a belief in god may motivate these men further?
@anotherdumbmonkey
I disagree.
God "probably" doesn't exist.
(I'm an atheist agnostic).
@hitch4645
I've heard him say "I'm an atheist" a number of times.
@Moirera
Sort of right.
A/Theist is "Do I BELIEVE that a god exists"
A/Gnostic is "Do I KNOW that God does (or does not) exist"
You can be any combination of them. That is, theist agnostic (I think god exists), theist gnostic (I know god exists), atheist agnostic (I believe (even 99.9%) god doesn't exist), atheist gnostic (I know 100% fact god doesn't exist).
A lot of atheists are atheist agnostics (myself included). I've never met a gnostic atheist.
If you are a spiritual person you are more likely to believe things on faith and authority, so the military structure is perfect for you. But, if you are a skeptic and a free-thinker you might question why we are invading and killing other peoples.
@hitch4645 he did already several times 🙂
The atheist vs agnostic argument is ridiculous.
Do you believe in whatever God story?
Agnostic: "no."
Atheist: "no.
How much you DONT believe is irrelevant. You don't believe it. You don't pray, you don't read the bible, you don't praise a God.. you don't. You're an atheist.
@Lukeor Atheism is a disbelief in any deity or spirituality where agnosticism is a disbelief in some sort of creator but acknowledging that there is possibly some sort of spiritual side to life.
@MrUser23456 Agnostic simply means A-without Gnostic-Knowledge.
It's the "I don't know" position, not the "I believe in spirituality"
I worship a question mark.
Exd 20:13 "You shall not murder.
Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man,
Number 31-17 NIV
but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.
Number 31-18 NIV
God gave/break the commandment?
Hey there was a guy in the news last year from fort hood who was a strongly spiritual person…. So he killed a dozen other soldiers on base in a shoot spree…..
@Jesse9063 Christianity FAILS. So does every religion.
what a babe….Ana is a fox
@whoiscarlito Just as good as anything to worship.
@Jesse9063
Plus do you guys really want to be dubbed a Christian Army. Then we all get into the whole this is the fourth crusade crap even though we're no where near the holy city.
1:19 Judge my spiritual fist IN YOUR FACE. I'm a BAMF! Don't screw with me.
1:58 Its true. You wont commit suicide on your own. You'll just grab a gun and mow down all your friends and family then shoot urself.
Evidence proves that people with a faith can better withstand the rigors of combat.
@kueagle1 Provide the fucking evidence. I highly doubt that someone praying in the middle of a battlefield has a higher chance to survive than someone trying to materially alter the situation.
The argument that people with low 'spiritual fitness' are less able to withstand the stress of the battlefield is not only woefully misinformed but insulting to those who have, can, and will. As many who do fall into this generalization replace religious or spiritual superstition with other coping mechanisms, or comforts such as family, loved ones, and friends. Even simple pleasures as coffee, cigarettes, exercise, hobbies…etc. This madness of 'sf' has also spread into some college. classes
'Spiritual fitness'? That may be one of the dumbest expressions I have ever heard in my life.
they want to make sure your not an undercover rag head.. how hard is that to understand
my spiritual fitness is awesome, he's doing seven marathons a week and sleeping with porn stars every night. i dig my spiritual fitness.
So… If you're Jewish or Muslim or Atheist(I'm Conservative Jewish), wouldn't you kinda be fucked? Since when did my military become the Jehovah's Witnesses or something?
Part II
For God is not a God of confusion but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints,
1 Corinthians 14-33 ESV
Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Thess 5.23 ESV
Q:Two different Gods, one in the old testament & the other in new testament? Or God changed ? If out of context, Y did the script mentioned its?
thks Wutee
Part I
The LORD is a man of war; the LORD is his name.
Exodus 15-3 ESV
The LORD is a warrior; the LORD is his name.
Exodus 15-3 NIV
I am the LORD your God, who stirs up the sea so that its waves roar— the LORD of hosts is his name.
Isaiah 51-15 ESV
Translation ESV & NIV stated warrior & man of War,,& New testament script stated God of Peace (Romans 15-33 ESV)
May the God of peace be with you all. Amen.
Romans 15-33 ESV
see part II
yep
for I, the LORD your God,
am a jealous God.
Exodus 20-5 NLT
Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud
1 Corinthians 13-4 NLT
contradicted verse,, anybody can see it>>>
But love your enemies, do good to them,…
.. because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked.
Luke 6-35 NIV
But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them–bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"
Luke 19:27 NIV
Jesus also contradicted himself,, ???